[nutball]

Prometheus - 6/10

It's a bit silly.

[Acert93]

I liked Prometheus but the part where they enter the cave and take off their helmets because the gas mix was ok was moronic considering these are scientists (and almost every choice after that was more stupid... come here pet alien snake!). Yes, lets just inhale whatever particulate or viral/bacterial/fungal microbe. The whole movie was full of this stuff, which, I guess explains what happened to them all

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Iron Man 3 Trailer

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Prometheus - 4/10.

Looks good, but god was the script awful. Badly paced, with characters who's motivations, actions and personalities make no sense and change all the time, stuff happens with no reason or explanation, etc. There's no one you care or sympathise with, and people do dumb, life threatening things all the time. Full of plot holes and cliches, and people being incredibly stupid.

The script writers need a serious slapping for this abortion of a movie. Very suprised that Ridley Scott turned out this load of trash. And I'm someone who thought that Aliens 3 and AvP were not that terrible (if not that good), though nowhere near the class of Alien or Aliens.

[Davros]

Speaking of plot holes I've just watched Looper

[Billy Idol]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

Prometheus - 4/10.

Looks good, but god was the script awful. Badly paced, with characters who's motivations, actions and personalities make no sense and change all the time, stuff happens with no reason or explanation, etc. There's no one you care or sympathise with, and people do dumb, life threatening things all the time. Full of plot holes and cliches, and people being incredibly stupid.

The script writers need a serious slapping for this abortion of a movie. Very suprised that Ridley Scott turned out this load of trash. And I'm someone who thought that Aliens 3 and AvP were not that terrible (if not that good), though nowhere near the class of Alien or Aliens.

Agreed...I wonder myself? How could Ridley Scott release this movie in its form?!?

[Davros]

So he can make money from the directors cut, then the extended edition, then the directors cut extended edition and the extended edition directors cut, then the extended edition with deleted scenes, then the extended cut with deleted scenes directors cut, then the remastered version, the remastered version with new ending
just like he did with blade runner

[Billy Idol]

Originally Posted by Davros

So he can make money from the directors cut, then the extended edition, then the directors cut extended edition and the extended edition directors cut, then the extended edition with deleted scenes, then the extended cut with deleted scenes directors cut, then the remastered version, the remastered version with new ending
just like he did with blade runner

Ha ha ha...it is funny, because it is so true

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Disney to buy Lucasfilm and start Star Wars Episodes VII, VIII, IX. Sort of like from the frying pan to the fire. Lucas hasn't been able to cut it with Star Wars as shown by the last three movies, but I'm ambivalent to Disney. They've screwed up a lot of stuff by interfering with the people who know better, but then you get the like of Avengers...

Look out for massive amounts of Star Wars merch in the next few years.

[Dr Evil]

I think that's good news for the franchise. I hope Pixar makes some stuff with it too.

[Mariner]

My first though was that, surely, anything has to be better than Lucas.

Then I read the following words from Bob Iger in the press release with a sense of foreboding:

“Our longterm plan is to release a new Star Wars feature film every two to three years,” he added, noting that the deal came with “an extensive and detailed treatment for the next three movies.”

O.M.G. Looks as though Lucas is actually going to be able to ruin my childhood a third time, even after he's now sold off the franchise!

My advice to Disney would be to completely scrap anything provided by Lucas and his useless lackeys and build something out of the New Republic books, many of which were generally pretty good. Get some of the folks at Pixar involved as well - they (usually) manage to get themselves a good storyline rather than relying on special effects alone.

[Davros]

How about Jar Jar Binks - The Movie

[Malo]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

They've screwed up a lot of stuff by interfering with the people who know better, but then you get the like of Avengers...

I doubt they'd get Joss Whedon to do Star Wars movies though....

[Dresden]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

Looks good, but god was the script awful.

There was a scene in there where Shaw was anesthetized and one of the scientists said "she's totally doped up." I actually started laughing.

I literally think of that line whenever the movie comes to mind. I kept hearing people complaining about the script and prayed it wasn't nearly as bad as it wound up being.

Aside from the script, I agree with the lack of motivations throughout the movie. David's, however, were somewhat obvious; Weyland is the all-encompassing evil corporation and every synthetic in an Alien movie, aside from Bishop, is a turncoat.

Also, I found it to be unnecessarily confusing, but I don't expect everyone to agree with me on that. When the Bluray copy hit the shelves, I couldn't help but grimace at the tagline on the back quoting "Questions will be answered!" Yeah. Fuck that.

[Davros]

How does the Disney buyout affect LucasArts - the games division ?

[Grall]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

Looks good, but god was the script awful. Badly paced, with characters who's motivations, actions and personalities make no sense and change all the time, stuff happens with no reason or explanation, etc. There's no one you care or sympathise with, and people do dumb, life threatening things all the time. Full of plot holes and cliches, and people being incredibly stupid.

If you look at the documentary, you notice that the script was essentially written ad-hoc, by committee, with Ridley constantly ordering changes to things he did not like, requiring re-writes of lines whose wordings were unfavorable, or rewrites of entire scenes. There seems to have been no fundamental, original idea of the plotline, and instead everything was winged as they progressed. Such a situation rarely turns out favorably. "The Fugitive" with Harrison Ford, was such a movie, which according to some interview I read years ago was being re-written as they were shooting it, but it turned out to be great. IMO anyway. An exception to the rule; Prometheus isn't one of those however...

The worst scene in Prometheus (amongst a bunch of bad, illogical ones) is when they send "50 amps" (lol) through the head of that dead engineer, which logically ought to have dessiccated millennia ago to "fool the nervous system into thinking it's alive"... Holy crap. Who thought that shit up?

It's a visually very impressive movie however, and I'm willing to forgive it for much of what is wrong with it just for that fact. It has (IMO, anyway) a lot of mood, and there is a deep realism embedded in those visuals as well. The sets of the Prometheus itself are exquisite, the visual effects are masterful.

That I have to turn off parts of my brain in order to watch the movie is a bit of an inconvenience though.

And I'm someone who thought that Aliens 3 and AvP were not that terrible (if not that good), though nowhere near the class of Alien or Aliens.

Agree with you there. I actually rather liked AvP when I saw it, except for that it felt much too short.

[Colourless]

It is kind of a bad thing to say that AvP made sense for what it was. It was internally consistent and its plot didn't have any real issues. It worked, even if its not the pinacle of film making, it was what it was. Prometheus was just a big wtf. Maybe at some point it looked good as just a plot synopsis, but the way the entire thing was developed was just rediculous. I expected it to be bad, but geeze, it was awful as far as I am concerned. It has almost no redeeming qualities, especially the script. It seems like just a bunch of random scenes thrown together designed to put the crew in danger/kill them. The deaths seemed senseless and meaningless. To me there was like no tension being built up. Things just happened. Even the jump from the opening scene with the Engineer to on the ship seems strange.

[Chalnoth]

Originally Posted by Grall

The worst scene in Prometheus (amongst a bunch of bad, illogical ones) is when they send "50 amps" (lol) through the head of that dead engineer, which logically ought to have dessiccated millennia ago to "fool the nervous system into thinking it's alive"... Holy crap. Who thought that shit up?

Haha, wow. Holy crap indeed. That ranks up there among the Earth being cooked by infrared radiation because the magnetic field was going to shut down...

Originally Posted by Grall

Agree with you there. I actually rather liked AvP when I saw it, except for that it felt much too short.

I did as well. It was a bit hokey and formulaic, but I don't remember any severe "holy crap" moments like the one you mention above. Granted, it's been a number of years since I saw it...

[Grall]

Originally Posted by Colourless

It is kind of a bad thing to say that AvP made sense for what it was. It was internally consistent and its plot didn't have any real issues. It worked, even if its not the pinacle of film making, it was what it was.

I agree. It's kind of a 1980s Volvo stationwagon of action movies; reliable workhorse, not the prettiest-looking, or the classiest, but dependable and practical. Nothing really wrong with it as far as I can recall (it was years since I last saw it), except as I mentioned that I felt it was a bit short. If they'd had more money and able to add maybe 20 more minutes of good-quality scenes maybe that would have helped, or maybe it wouldn't.

Aliens, in comparison, has such a well-crafted cast with awesome personalities and great actors. The environments are tight and claustrophobic, and the overall mood is just plain creepy and scary. When Ripley and Hicks go to rescue Newt and cut her out from under the metal grating, and then retreat back up the elevator... That whole sequence is just full of tension and suspense, with a masterful shock moment towards the end.

Then there's a brief period of relief when they, the last two survivors, join up with Bishop and see the dropship come in for a landing, before we realize Ripley's gearing up to wade back in there... That movie really can't be surpassed, IMO. It's already up there at the very top. You could match it, possibly, but not even Jim Cameron's been able to do that. AvP is maybe in the best form it possibly could be, and adding to it or changing things might unstabilize the whole thing...

I expected it to be bad, but geeze, it was awful as far as I am concerned. It has almost no redeeming qualities, especially the script.

I liked - as in REALLY liked - Fassbender's performance. Even though it was obvious right from the start that he was screwy in the head (psychotic actually, but that takes a little while to show itself), it was still a well-performed act. Idris Elba I didn't even recognize after having seen Thor. And Charlize Theron's always great IMO. One of the most versatile actresses active in hollywood cinema right now.

But the script was fucking crap! Lol.

It seems like just a bunch of random scenes thrown together designed to put the crew in danger/kill them. The deaths seemed senseless and meaningless. To me there was like no tension being built up.

Yeah, well...you do walk into the theatre of that movie with the pre-concieved expectation that pretty much everyone in the cast will die anyway, don't you? So it's hard to really surprise the audience when people start dying on the screen, I'm willing to grant the movie that much leeway.

When the "I like rocks!" geologist takes off from the main group, together with that snake-loving nutter whatever his name and job was...you knew right from the start they were gonna get lost and die. With all the technology they had at their disposal I don't understand how that could happen, they could just have contacted the ship to get guided back out again...but yeah. There you have it. That's a scripting problem.

I did like the fight in the docking bay though. That one was effing freaky. The monster looks...well, dead really, when you first get to see it. And then it turns out quite differently! So that was a cool scene for me anyway. Like, things suddenly go REALLY pearshaped and you don't know exactly how bad it will get by the end of the fight. I like those kinds of moments, there's seldom such scenes in action/horror movies - or rarely successful ones anyway - but when they work it's great. And it worked this time IMO. It's one of the few really working sequences in Prometheus that I have nothing to complain about.

(Of course, Aliens has such a scene too, when the marines are all down under the heat exchangers, trying to rescue the colonists...)

Originally Posted by Chalnoth

Haha, wow. Holy crap indeed. That ranks up there among the Earth being cooked by infrared radiation because the magnetic field was going to shut down...

Lol wow. That's The Core, isn't it? I never saw that movie, just the concept seemed too dumbfuck stupid to bother wasting any money on.

I wonder why it is that scriptwriters are so profoundly ignorant of the natural sciences if it is like conservatives say, that hollywood is a liberal intellectual elite...?

[Grall]

Oh and by the way! Anyone seen Skyfall yet?

My 74-year-old dad saw it a few days ago and said it was good.

[Cornsnake]

I saw Skyfall yesterday. I don't know why but I was kinda disappointed by it. Not that it's a bad movie though.

[Davros]

I was disappointed with skyfall bad villian, plot holes, unexplained stuff, and 1 gadget, a gun that only he can fire.

[fellix]

Another zombie flick here. I hope for moar action and less boring melodrama this time.
Now I'll head up for another L4D head chopping session.

[Grall]

Hurm. That's a movie version of L4D, pretty much. Too bad I'm not terribly entertained by zombies, but I guess I'll watch it anyway when the time comes.

...Also, anyone else noticed the persistent Apple logo in the corner on that trailer?

[Davros]

Originally Posted by Grall

Too bad I'm not terribly entertained by zombies,

Your watching the wrong films

The Undead are Brown bread