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Old 11-Sep-2012, 15:29   #1
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Recent / future titles already partnering with AMD Gaming Evolved include: Sleeping Dogs, Hitman Absolution, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, with more to come...
And now I can confirm Far Cry 3 to the list.
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Old 11-Sep-2012, 15:56   #2
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And now I can confirm Far Cry 3 to the list.
Nicely done. Now let's just hope it's more like Far Cry 1 than Far Cry 2!
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Old 11-Sep-2012, 16:10   #3
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And now I can confirm Far Cry 3 to the list.
But can you fix my 7970 that just broke under the burden of evil compute kernels? (Note to readers, this is tongue-in-cheek).
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And now I can confirm Far Cry 3 to the list.
So you're willing to forgive Ubisoft of their past misdemeanors just like that? I'd give that shower a wide berth frankly. There must be plenty more deserving games devs that this lot.
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So you're willing to forgive Ubisoft of their past misdemeanors just like that? I'd give that shower a wide berth frankly. There must be plenty more deserving games devs that this lot.
It is unreasonable to expect a business entity to conduct anything but business as usual. How do you define deserving? Ubi makes high-sell, wide impact stuff, and Far Cry 3 is likely to be a strong seller - that makes it very very deserving.
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 01:52   #6
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So you're willing to forgive Ubisoft of their past misdemeanors just like that? I'd give that shower a wide berth frankly. There must be plenty more deserving games devs that this lot.
I don't think AMD really has the luxury to pick its partners based on how well-behaved they are.
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 10:47   #7
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This is still the same Ubisoft who has a history of hobbling AMD cards with ridiculous levels of tessellation, removed dx10.1 from Assassin's Creed, and often doesn't allow access to games until the benchmarks are already out, right?

If AMD is now throwing money around devs, I think there are more deserving cases than this Dubiousoft lot.
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 11:43   #8
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Nono, you get it completely wrong. Ubisoft has already shown that they are very much for sale to IHV's, so why not be the ones to take advantage of that
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This is still the same Ubisoft who has a history of hobbling AMD cards with ridiculous levels of tessellation, removed dx10.1 from Assassin's Creed, and often doesn't allow access to games until the benchmarks are already out, right?

If AMD is now throwing money around devs, I think there are more deserving cases than this Dubiousoft lot.
Obviously AMD are trying to change that by buying Ubisoft to screw over their competitors in the same way that Nvidia have in the past.

Shame it's Ubisoft's customers that get caught in the middle, but then that is why Ubi have the reputation and the adversarial relationship with their customers that they've had for years.
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[B]ut then that is why Ubi have the reputation and the adversarial relationship with their customers that they've had for years.
But that's OK, 93~95% of them are filthy pirates anyway!
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 12:56   #11
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Maybe we are seeing a new, 'nicer' Ubisoft, what with the end of the always on DRM that was annonced last week
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 15:40   #12
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Until they decide to try something else of course.
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Old 12-Sep-2012, 16:22   #13
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Maybe we are seeing a new, 'nicer' Ubisoft, what with the end of the always on DRM that was annonced last week
They are just seeing their bottom line hit as their reputation tanks whilst the money they spend on intrusive DRM does nothing. Bad reputations are difficult to shift once you have them, and Ubi's various DRM schemes have really pissed off some of their genuine customers.

It's also possible that someone at Ubisoft has figured out that they should be figuring out how to get people to give them money, rather than spend all their energy in (failed) efforts to stop them from playing your games.

This is what Valve has figured out. DRM that fails to prevent piracy is a far distant second consideration. The main thing is to sell more stuff to customers. Make it easy for customers to give you their money.
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A good reference (albeit limited response of course) is this thread on Rage3d Did PC gamers stop pirating?. Most (including myself) indicated that Steam was the primary reason they stopped pirating almost completely.
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"always-on" DRM that requires an internet connection, while understandable from a technical point of view, is pretty extreme. that means stronger DRM on a PC game than on a console, where you can just insert disc (many consoles are not connected).

Dunno what's worse. Installing a rogue storage driver or even a rootkit is bad. There used to be a rogue driver made to corrupt Daemon Tools, it could have other side effects.

I don't pirate anymore because I lost interest in gaming. I thought Crysis 1 ran too slow after upgrading, and had hopes for the Crysis 2 demo but.. they made a decision that would you be unable to run it by pulling out servers a few days after it was out.
That was a shock. What if I buy games and they disable them when they feel like it?
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A good reference (albeit limited response of course) is this thread on Rage3d Did PC gamers stop pirating?. Most (including myself) indicated that Steam was the primary reason they stopped pirating almost completely.
For me it was a combination of not being a broke-ass 14-year old anymore, and discovering that for some reason, UK retailers have really low prices and ship to other countries.
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Old 28-Sep-2012, 14:45   #17
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No point in AMD helping devs if they're drivers are still crappy.
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Old 29-Sep-2012, 02:35   #18
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Haters gonna hate. Funny i seem to magically avoid all of these crappy drivers, i must have a 6th sense
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Old 29-Sep-2012, 11:17   #19
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I'm the opposite I run straight into them
anything later than 12.2 is bad for me (apparently a lot of people with 775 boards have similar problems)
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Haters gonna hate. Funny i seem to magically avoid all of these crappy drivers, i must have a 6th sense
I do run 3 cards though...
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I'm the opposite I run straight into them
anything later than 12.2 is bad for me (apparently a lot of people with 775 boards have similar problems)
I'm still running a 775 board with no major problems on 12.9 beta.
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Old 29-Sep-2012, 17:47   #22
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Perhaps this thread was originally part of another, but I'm not getting the point of the title.
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I'm still running a 775 board with no major problems on 12.9 beta.
Same here with 12.8, for what it's worth. No minor problems either, actually.
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