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Mendel · 28-Nov-2007, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putas

Your personal expectation does not set standard for other viewers.

Fair enough, let's run a poll on the matter.

Putas · 28-Nov-2007, 20:15

Might be interesting. But mind you one more time- since the graph is not intended for people of the b3d kind, results are irrelevant to our debate.

Mendel · 28-Nov-2007, 20:36

Interesting opinion.

I tend to think as follows: If a graph comparing graphics cards is openly shown and released in the internet, it's intended for anyone interested in such content.

edit: Besides, come on, it's a graph comparing high end 3d graphics adapters. If this forum is not target audience for such matters, what is? Who is the graph intended for? And why not to us?

neliz · 28-Nov-2007, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel

edit: Besides, come on, it's a graph comparing high end 3d graphics adapters. If this forum is not target audience for such matters, what is? Who is the graph intended for? And why not to us?

He would then say it's for the marketeers and resellers as an extra tool to sell their product (the one with the much larger bar.)

Why would you buy a Chevy? this Ford performs *so* much better.

Putas · 29-Nov-2007, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by neliz

He would then say it's for the marketeers and resellers as an extra tool to sell their product (the one with the much larger bar.)

Why would you buy a Chevy? this Ford performs *so* much better.

Almost there. Just don't be so obsessed with evil marketing.

neliz · 29-Nov-2007, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putas

Almost there. Just don't be so obsessed with evil marketing.

It's just because Mendel's photo shopping skills suck more than that of ATI/nV's PR departments

Mendel · 06-Dec-2007, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putas

Might be interesting. But mind you one more time- since the graph is not intended for people of the b3d kind, results are irrelevant to our debate.

And here are your irrelevant results so far:

Code:

Graph style a).........4  	10.26%
Graph style b).........	29 	74.36%
Neither................5 	12.82%
Both...................1 	2.56%

Graph style a) here refers to the style of the original graph, b) would refer to full scale graph. (as edited by me, but ignoring it being crappy)

neliz · 06-Dec-2007, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel

Graph style a) here refers to the style of the original graph, b) would refer to full scale graph. (as edited by me, but ignoring it being crappy)

Quote:

But mind you one more time- since the graph is not intended for people of the b3d kind, results are irrelevant to our debate.

See.. we've just won! a "who can drive fastest into a concrete bridge pillar" match

digitalwanderer · 18-Apr-2008, 21:25

And this week's weiner of the worst graph of the week award IS.........Techware Labs:

Look at that whopping .06 fps difference!

Valzic · 18-Apr-2008, 22:27

I want to buy whatever is generating that top chart...

It's so uber...

zsouthboy · 18-Apr-2008, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalwanderer

And this week's weiner of the worst graph of the week award IS.........Techware Labs:

Look at that whopping .06 fps difference!

:O :O :O

Holy shit!

That should get an award!

AlphaWolf · 18-Apr-2008, 23:16

The first thing I think of when I see that graph is 1/5th of 1% difference.

Arty · 31-May-2008, 23:12

New entry:

Hands down the winner compared to the one in the first post.

v_rr · 09-Jun-2008, 15:57

Beat this:

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/145...ard/index.html

Look to all review. Is hilarious

AlphaWolf · 09-Jun-2008, 18:44

What's funny is that below the graph they say:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweaktown

Premiere Elements shows less than 5 seconds between the three platforms. There’s nothing really to discern a winner here.

Zeroing the graph definitely would have shown this more clearly.

Mendel · 11-Jun-2008, 05:26

Have mercies, it hurts me eyes :/

Mendel · 13-Jun-2008, 05:31

Glad to see these 48X0 vs 8800 graphs properly scaled.

edit: the graph seems to have disappeared from that thread...

Simon F · 13-Jun-2008, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel

Glad to see these 48X0 vs 8800 graphs properly scaled.

Indeed. Now if only I'd continued studying Turkish so the rest made sense

ChrisRay · 16-Aug-2008, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon F

Indeed. Now if only I'd continued studying Turkish so the rest made sense

Quote:

DISCLAIMER
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http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_rad...870x2.aspx?p=4

P.S. Just pointing out that these marketing graphs are not exlusive to anyone one side.

Geo · 18-Aug-2008, 15:54

ZOMG. The red line is 7x as long as the green line! Where do I send my money? Do they take tips too?! If I send them a signed blank check and tell them to fill in what they feel is fair, will that work?

Davros · 24-Aug-2008, 19:40

0.8 is a good a place to start as any

DarN · 24-Aug-2008, 22:33

Bye bye 8800GTX. I bought a new mainboard, memory, psu and a 4800X2. That graph convinced me!

Simon F · 26-Aug-2008, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davros

0.8 is a good a place to start as any

Why not start at 1.2 so that the competitors appear to score negative?

Mendel · 04-Sep-2008, 20:10

sigh

28-Nov-2007, 20:36	#78
Mendel Mr. Upgrade Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,335	Interesting opinion. I tend to think as follows: If a graph comparing graphics cards is openly shown and released in the internet, it's intended for anyone interested in such content. edit: Besides, come on, it's a graph comparing high end 3d graphics adapters. If this forum is not target audience for such matters, what is? Who is the graph intended for? And why not to us? Last edited by Mendel; 28-Nov-2007 at 20:42.

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digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Winfield, IN USA Posts: 15,292	And this week's weiner of the worst graph of the week award IS.........Techware Labs: Look at that whopping .06 fps difference! __________________ Elite Bastards - Adminish “Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.” - General James N. Mattis

31-May-2008, 23:12	#88
Arty KEPLER Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,892	New entry: Hands down the winner compared to the one in the first post. __________________ People like you - Silent_Buddha laying an epic smackdown on XMAN26's double standards. So you're mixing apples and oranges to calculate grapes and then compare it to apples. - silent_guy's witty retort on sweeping comparisons.

13-Jun-2008, 05:31	#92
Mendel Mr. Upgrade Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,335	Glad to see these 48X0 vs 8800 graphs properly scaled. edit: the graph seems to have disappeared from that thread... Last edited by Mendel; 04-Sep-2008 at 20:11.

18-Aug-2008, 15:54	#95
Geo Mostly Harmless Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Uffda-land Posts: 9,156	ZOMG. The red line is 7x as long as the green line! Where do I send my money? Do they take tips too?! If I send them a signed blank check and tell them to fill in what they feel is fair, will that work? __________________ "We'll thrash them --absolutely thrash them."--Richard Huddy on Larrabee "Our multi-decade old 3D graphics rendering architecture that's based on a rasterization approach is no longer scalable and suitable for the demands of the future." --Pat Gelsinger, Intel ". . .its taking us longer than we would have liked to get a [Crossfire game] profiling system out there" --Terry Makedon, ATI, July 2006 "Christ, this is Beyond3D; just get rid of any fker talking about patterned chihuahuas! Can the dog write GLSL? No. Then it can fk off." --Da Boss

28-Nov-2007, 20:15	#77
Putas Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 153	Might be interesting. But mind you one more time- since the graph is not intended for people of the b3d kind, results are irrelevant to our debate.

18-Apr-2008, 22:27	#85
Valzic Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 168	I want to buy whatever is generating that top chart... It's so uber...

18-Apr-2008, 23:16	#87
AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Join Date: May 2003 Location: Treading Water Posts: 7,457	The first thing I think of when I see that graph is 1/5th of 1% difference.

09-Jun-2008, 15:57	#89
v_rr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 147	Beat this: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/145...ard/index.html Look to all review. Is hilarious

11-Jun-2008, 05:26	#91
Mendel Mr. Upgrade Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,335	Have mercies, it hurts me eyes :/

24-Aug-2008, 19:40	#96
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,488	0.8 is a good a place to start as any

24-Aug-2008, 22:33	#97
DarN Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 406	Bye bye 8800GTX. I bought a new mainboard, memory, psu and a 4800X2. That graph convinced me! __________________ I like all womens, even the fat ones. - Fernando Martinez Get Opera

04-Sep-2008, 20:10	#99
Mendel Mr. Upgrade Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,335	sigh

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